<div dir="ltr"><div>It might be worth opening a bug with this suggestion (that this file not be in roaming)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Mike<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:07 AM Timo Pietilä <<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Is there a reason why it is in roaming -part of the user profile?<br>
<br>
Nevermind, most of things in FF and TB profiles are things that don't <br>
need to be in roaming. They are there for old habit of having absolute <br>
minimum support for windows which is now hard to change without breaking <br>
downward compatibility I guess.<br>
<br>
It is just annoying to see that whenever there is a roaming full top two <br>
things that fill it are always Firefox and Thunderbird.<br>
<br>
Maybe UE-V will save us from that nightmare.<br>
<br>
Timo Pietilä<br>
<br>
On 8.10.2020 20.28, Mike Kaply wrote:<br>
> Firefox ships with default settings and then queries updates to those <br>
> settings via RemoteSettings.<br>
> <br>
> There's some developer info here - <br>
> <a href="https://remote-settings.readthedocs.io/en/latest/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://remote-settings.readthedocs.io/en/latest/</a> <br>
> <<a href="https://remote-settings.readthedocs.io/en/latest/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://remote-settings.readthedocs.io/en/latest/</a>><br>
> <br>
> But not a lot user facing.<br>
> <br>
> The reason removing it works is because we ship defaults.<br>
> <br>
> Mike<br>
> <br>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 2:57 AM Timo Pietilä <<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> So basically a cache of settings which can be deleted safely and it<br>
> then<br>
> rebuilds it after FF is started again.<br>
> <br>
> I find these unnecessary cache files that can't be removed from UI and<br>
> have nothing important in them rather annoying.<br>
> <br>
> It feels like there is security/privacy issue too if you can dig any<br>
> history of how FF has been used from those files.<br>
> <br>
> Timo Pietilä<br>
> <br>
> On 8.10.2020 10.17, Wes Kocher wrote:<br>
> > My understanding is that "Remote Settings" is the system Firefox is<br>
> > using to synchronize and distribute preference changes and localized<br>
> > messages between all of the various processes Firefox is using these<br>
> > days as a multi-process browser.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 9:50 PM Timo Pietilä<br>
> <<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > What are these remote settings? They don't seem to have any<br>
> impact<br>
> > on TB<br>
> > or FF. Are these some kind of cached settings that for some<br>
> reason are<br>
> > in permanent storage?<br>
> ><br>
> > Timo Pietilä<br>
> ><br>
> > On 7.10.2020 17.52, Mike Kaply wrote:<br>
> > > Unfortunately I don't have a better answer. That file is<br>
> used for<br>
> > our<br>
> > > remote settings database which can be that big.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Mike<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 11:55 PM Timo Pietilä<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>><br>
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> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>><br>
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Unfortunately no such pref exist in TB or FF.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Also it isn't GB -size large, just 10+MB, but that is<br>
> large<br>
> > enough to<br>
> > > cause problems in roaming profiles.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I just changed all dom.indexed -prefs to false, maybe<br>
> that helps<br>
> > > with it<br>
> > > getting large.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Maybe I can change permissions do that FF/TB can't<br>
> write in that<br>
> > > directory just to see if that has any effect on FF/TB.<br>
> If it<br>
> > doesn't I<br>
> > > consider making that change university-wide.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Timo Pietilä<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On 6.10.2020 18.50, Mike Kaply wrote:<br>
> > > > It's used for storing indexedDB data for internal<br>
> pages.<br>
> > There is<br>
> > > a bug<br>
> > > > for the growth:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a><br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a><br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a>>><br>
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> > > ><br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a><br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a><br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a>>><br>
> > > <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a><br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a><br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1517145</a>>>>><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > One of the comments says you can set:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > "dom.indexedDB.dataThreshold" pref to "-1".<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > To avoid it.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Mike<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:56 AM Timo Pietilä<br>
> > > <<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a><br>
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.pietila@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">timo.pietila@helsinki.fi</a>>>>>> wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > What is 3870112724rsegmnoittet-es.sqlite (and<br>
> other files<br>
> > > like that),<br>
> > > > why it is in \storage\permanent\chrome in<br>
> > firefox/thunderbird<br>
> > > profile<br>
> > > > and why does it keep getting bigger? I can delete<br>
> > everything<br>
> > > in that<br>
> > > > folder and it does absolutely nothing in my<br>
> browser,<br>
> > it just<br>
> > > rebuilds<br>
> > > > that folder when I restart FF/TB. When it is<br>
> rebuild<br>
> > it is at<br>
> > > first<br>
> > > > very<br>
> > > > small.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > If that is not needed why is it "permanent"?<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > How can I get rid of it? It eats up a lot of<br>
> roaming<br>
> > space.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Timo Pietilä<br>
> > > ><br>
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