<div dir="ltr"><div>It's not that we don't care it's that using a real MSI won't update properly using our infrastructure.</div><div><br></div><div>It's simply not something we can do right now.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike Kaply<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 7:17 AM Alexandre GAUVRIT <<a href="mailto:agauvrit@tranquil.it">agauvrit@tranquil.it</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>All these packaging problems were addressed to Mozilla teams many
month ago, they just don't care : <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511835" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511835</a></p>
<p>Don't go with MSI right now, stick to *.exe, since they're not
able to release correctly formed packages.<br>
</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Alex<br>
</p>
<div>Le 25/10/2019 à 13:29, Timo Pietilä a
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<blockquote type="cite">If it
were a proper .msi and not .exe wrapper all those problems could
go away. However I prefer .exe -wrapper that doesn't leave any
trace of itself behind than something that pollutes computer with
.msi reg entries and leaves them behind when user decides to
uninstall program using helper.exe (or ARP that uses helper.exe
instead of msiexec /x).
<br>
<br>
So for all the evils not leaving any trace of it being .msi is the
lesser evil IMO.
<br>
<br>
Timo Pietilä
<br>
<br>
On 25.10.2019 13.24, Gage, John wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">I'm with you on that, Will - I don't feel
that this should be "expected behavior" or "by design" for the
MSI binaries. The allure of using MSIs is for classic win32 app
consistency and convenience that "msiexec" brings for both
installation and uninstallation by using the product code GUID.
At the moment, the uninstaller uses "helper.exe", so I assume
that switching to "msiexec /x" would require some work to get it
performing the same actions as what "helper.exe" does now.
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Thank for the quick response, Timo and John,
<br>
<br>
I've had .msi installers in the past that barely did more than
populate the application name. I'm assuming this aspect does
something else, and populating the detection method is a
side-effect... otherwise I fail to see the point.
<br>
<br>
To be honest, if I have to populate the setting manually, I
might just go back to the .exe method. Is there any benefit to
using the .msi I'm not seeing?
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Just adding confirmation to Timo's comments that using the MSI
GUID will not work.
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Will, I use SCCM heavily, and for my Firefox ESR Application's
"Detection Method", I use the following "Detection Rule" instead
of the MSI GUID:
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Setting Type: Registry
<br>
Hive: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
<br>
Key: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Mozilla
Firefox 68.2.0 ESR (x64 en-US)
<br>
Value: DisplayVersion
<br>
Data Type: String
<br>
Radio Button selection: "This registry setting must exist on the
target system to indicate presence of this application"
<br>
<br>
There are many other detection method variants that will work;
just keep in mind that if Mozilla ever changes the reg key
naming scheme to not include the version and/or lang, this
detection method could break. At that point you can just use
the other radio button selection of "This registry setting must
satisfy the following rule to indicate the presence of this
application" and set the Operator to "Contains" and whatever the
version is in the "Value" field.
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AFAIK that is by design. That msi is exe-wrapper and after
install there is no trace that it was installed using .msi. You
can't uninstall it using msiexec /x {productcode} either.
<br>
<br>
You need to treat it like if it were installed using .exe.
<br>
<br>
Timo Pietilä
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On 25.10.2019 11.52, William Spratt wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi All,
<br>
<br>
So with the 68.2 ESR release, I thought I'd try pushing it out
with
<br>
the new .msi installer.
<br>
<br>
We use SCCM to push out Firefox, and this has worked fine with
the
<br>
.exe versions, manually configuring SCCM to check the file
version of
<br>
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" to verify the
<br>
install/update was successful. When we import the 68.2 .msi
into SCCM,
<br>
it does handy things like automatically populate the install
detection
<br>
method to check for {1294A4C5-9977-480F-9497-C0EA1E630130} in
the msi
<br>
directory. Unfortunately, while the Firefox .msi runs
successfully,
<br>
installing/updating to 68.2, it doesn't detect that
reference in the
<br>
.msi directory.
<br>
<br>
Has anyone else experienced this? Should I log a bug report?
<br>
<br>
Regards
<br>
<br>
Will
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