[Mozilla Enterprise] Policies feedback
Emmerich, Thimo
thimo.emmerich at sony.com
Mon Jul 9 12:49:07 UTC 2018
Dear Mike,
thanks for your effort!
Best regards,
Thimo
On 06.07.2018 21:53, Mike Kaply wrote:
> FYI, I've checked in a fix for the distribution problem. I'll be
> working to get it uplifted everywhere including the ESR.
>
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:54 AM, Emmerich, Thimo
> <Thimo.Emmerich at sony.com <mailto:Thimo.Emmerich at sony.com>> wrote:
>
> Dear Felipe,
>
> actually in our case we just want to provide defaults to the users
> to have a sane starting/reset condition.
> Users should not be limited to change this setting if they have a
> good reason (R&D).
>
> Since Ubuntu's distribution.ini does not contain any value we just
> diverted it out of the way:
> dpkg-divert --add --rename --divert
> /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini.unused
> /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini
>
> Since then, policies are working excellent. :-)
> Maybe it is a good idea to mention the distribution.ini
> issue/limitation (and possible workarounds) somewhere in the
> policies documentation.
>
> Best regards,
> Thimo Emmerich
>
>
> On 22.06.2018 23:39, Felipe Gomes wrote:
>> Thanks for providing feedback!
>>
>> This is exactly the bug you pointed out... It happens because
>> when there's a distribution.ini file present, during its load
>> process the default prefs gets reset.. This was noticed in bug
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1428923
>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1428923>, but since
>> "most" use cases for policies use locked prefs, it wasn't
>> considered a big issue..
>>
>> It's a valid bug that we want to fix, but it's non trivial
>> because this area is fragile... it's hard to know all the
>> different things that people are doing with distribution.ini and
>> how a subtle change might break things..
>>
>> If you use the Locked option in the policies it should work as a
>> workaround. If there are policies that you need that a Locked
>> option is not supported (and is not the default), let us know so
>> we can try to provide more workarounds.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Felipe
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Emmerich, Thimo
>> <Thimo.Emmerich at sony.com <mailto:Thimo.Emmerich at sony.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> thanks for the quick reply.
>>
>>
>> On 21.06.2018 15:58, Mike Kaply wrote:
>>> I assume you have a distribution.ini because you are on Linux?
>> Yes, we are using Ubuntu 14.04 - 18.04. The first one is
>> phasing out.
>>
>>> As far as the trusted sites goes, that shouldn't have been
>>> enterprise only and I will be removing it.
>>>
>>> As a matter of fact, on Linux, none of this should have been
>>> enterprise only and I will be removing that restriction.
>>>
>>> The plan is for Firefox 62 to have all of these changes in.
>>> Unfortunately we had other work so it didn't make it into 61.
>>>
>>> We're targeting the rest of the enterprise work for 62/ESR 60.2.
>> Thats good news! I am not sure if Windows guys will also
>> apply policies in the future, but if they do I think it will
>> be SSO settings first.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Thimo
>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:43 AM, Emmerich, Thimo
>>> <Thimo.Emmerich at sony.com <mailto:Thimo.Emmerich at sony.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> thanks for providing the policies with latest FF60
>>> release. It is a very useful feature for distributing
>>> company specific settings across client machines.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I observed that policies suffer from the
>>> same distribution.ini bug as autoconfig does (see
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947838#c15
>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947838#c15>
>>> for details).
>>>
>>> The last item in our autoconfig is the configuration of
>>> SSO (trusted uris). Is there a special reason to not
>>> support it in non-ESR releases?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Thimo Emmerich
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards
>>>
>>> Thimo Emmerich
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards
>>
>> Thimo Emmerich
>>
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>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards
>
> Thimo Emmerich
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> European Technology Center (EuTEC)
>
> Phone: +49 (0) 711 / 5858 - 282
> E-mail:thimo.emmerich at eu.sony.com <mailto:thimo.emmerich at eu.sony.com>
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> Sony Europe Limited, Zweigniederlassung Deutschland
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> Registered at the Court of Berlin-Charlottenburg HRB 129332 B
>
> Main Establishment: Sony Europe Limited
> The Heights, Brooklands, Weybridge, Surrey, KT13 0XW, United Kingdom
> Companies House Cardiff 2422874
> Directors: Shigeru Kumekawa, Atsushi Kobayashi, Ricky Londema
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