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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The pagespeed page is neat and all,
        but I think that pages like<br>
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        or <br>
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        are closer to what we need to offer.<br>
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        When I think "Mozilla Developer Dashboard", I'm thinking
        something very different. We have a number of services that may
        be a tad "tweaky" to use, and sadly tend to be more on the "It
        either works or it doesn't" end. <br>
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        To pick on my own service rather than someone else's, Push is in
        theory simple (run a bit of JS, get a URL, send stuff to URL to
        get an even back on the JS), but there's an awfully big "black
        box" around things. <br>
        * Did I PUT/POST correctly?<br>
        * Did the message make it out of the system only to be eaten by
        the client?<br>
        * Did I properly encrypt the data portion? (Yeah, that's not
        going to be fun for folks.)<br>
        * Have I run over quota for events?<br>
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        Having a dashboard to help answer questions for folks who aren't
        intimately familiar with the code and have little interest in
        digging into that particular morass would be useful. It's often
        difficult for creators of a service to remember, but we're
        providing a solution to a much, much larger problem and the less
        folks have to think about our services, the happier they'll be
        to use them. <br>
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      On 10/9/2015 5:48 PM, William Maggs wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Axel
          Kratel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:akratel@mozilla.com" target="_blank">akratel@mozilla.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">This is one of the most popular Google
              developer service: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/"
                target="_blank">https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/</a>
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              <div>You might want to check what looks like a really
                extensive offering from Google. Some of it is server
                side, but at the very least we should have similar
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:00
                    PM, William Maggs <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                <div>Andy, <br>
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                                Perhaps on top of these near-term needs
                                we can also bring into the discussion
                                developer services you and Laura have
                                discussed at various times, including: <br>
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                              compatibility<br>
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                            crash tests<br>
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                          security <br>
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                        Bill <br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 9, 2015
                              at 3:37 PM, Christopher Karlof <span
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                                <div dir="ltr">Hi Andy,
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                                  <div>One topic that has started to
                                    come up more frequently is the
                                    notion of a developer dashboard for
                                    Firefox developer services. We now
                                    have at least a few current and
                                    future use cases:</div>
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                                  <div>1) Add-on management and metrics</div>
                                  <div>2) Push notification management
                                    and metrics</div>
                                  <div>3) FxA Oauth relier management
                                    and metrics</div>
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                                  <div>I think we’re going to need to
                                    start figuring this out. I don’t
                                    feel we’re adequately staffed for
                                    this ATM, and I feel it would be
                                    useful to start thinking about this
                                    soon in advance of our 2016
                                    planning. Please look for a meeting
                                    invite for us to have some initial
                                    discussions.</div>
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                                  <div>thanks,</div>
                                  <div>-chris</div>
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