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Hi sorry I couldn't make this.<br>
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It's great that this will have test case coverage. What's your
schedule for this?<br>
As in: when will the sites be ready for testing, when should testing
be completed by, etc? <br>
<br>
thanks<br>
delphine<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/05/2015 04:31 PM, Edwin Wong
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<div dir="ltr">MP and FxA QA, Peiying met - (probably too early
for Josh) but that <br>
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MP(Krupa) and FxA (Stuart) would hand off test cases to Peiying
and Delphine for community or contractor testing. This should
satisfy testing for the RTL feature as well as l10n testing.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Edwin
Wong <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:edwong@mozilla.com" target="_blank">edwong@mozilla.com</a>></span>
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<div>+cc: stuart (fxa qa manager) and karl<br>
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I'll schedule a meeting with all the QA folk, Wil, Josh,
Peiying, to sort out the testing. Let me know if you want
to be added to that meeting.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888"><br>
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-edwin<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Thu, Feb 5,
2015 at 10:47 AM, Krupa Raj <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kraj@mozilla.com" target="_blank">kraj@mozilla.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>For Marketplace, we usually do
some spot-checking across major
locales but detailed Localization
Testing is considered out-of-scope.<br>
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Peiying,<br>
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Is this something the South African
contracting company can help test?<br>
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I will talk to Karl who works on Services
QA and see what is being tested on the FxA
side of things. <br>
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However, if we cannot utilize the
contracting company, I will work on getting
Marketplace covered for RTL testing. Testing
FxA however, is out of my purview.<br>
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Krupa<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015
at 6:15 PM, Wil Clouser <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wclouser@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">wclouser@mozilla.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Delphine -
thanks for the links and information.
The Marketplace<br>
designers have already been working with
those documents and have<br>
draft RTL layouts in (soon-to-be public)
RFC right now.<br>
<br>
I'm CCing the Marketplace test lead,
Krupa, who, as the only tester,<br>
also has very limited resources. :)
Krupa - can you read this thread<br>
and give us your feedback about
Marketplace testing? We're also<br>
talking about FxA as it's very related
and I understand you own the<br>
integration but not the actual FxA
product itself. What are your<br>
thoughts?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Wil<br>
<br>
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Josh
Cheng <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jocheng@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">jocheng@mozilla.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hi Caitlin,<br>
><br>
> I agree with Delphine. Regarding
now Marigold are fully occupied and we
are<br>
> still trying to mitigate the TC
quality concern, I would suggest<br>
> Marketplace/FxA QA take this task.<br>
><br>
> Thank you!<br>
>
-------------------------------------------------------<br>
> Josh Cheng<br>
> Engineering Project Manager,
Firefox OS<br>
> Mozilla Corporation<br>
> ✉ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jocheng@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">jocheng@mozilla.com</a><br>
>
-------------------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
> Christopher Karlof <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ckarlof@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">ckarlof@mozilla.com</a>>
於 2015年2月5日 上午10:14 寫道：<br>
><br>
> +dev-fxacct<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:10 PM,
Delphine Lebédel <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:delphine@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">delphine@mozilla.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Just one question: who usually
does the Marketplace/FxA test cases?<br>
>><br>
>> Given the very limited
resources Marigold testers have
(outsource in<br>
>> China) for creating RTL test
cases, it might be a better idea that
the QA<br>
>> owner for Marketplace/FxA takes
this task on? It's just a matter of
studying<br>
>> the UX specs and covering these
components like they usually are,
adapting<br>
>> the TCs to the specs<br>
>><br>
>> @Josh: do you think that
Marigold has enough bandwidth to cover
both<br>
>> feature apps that they are
already doing *as well as*
Marketplace/FxA? I'm<br>
>> not so sure about this, and
wouldn't want to overload them<br>
>><br>
>> thanks<br>
>> delphine<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 02/04/2015 06:04 PM,
Delphine Lebédel wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Josh et al,<br>
>><br>
>> thanks for reaching out about
this.<br>
>><br>
>> From what I understand,
Marketplace isn't correctly RTLed yet
(so probably<br>
>> Firefox Accounts isn't
either?). This means the right-to-left
feature<br>
>> behavior there still has to be
analyzed and probably worked on, at this<br>
>> point. I've added Peiying to
this discussion as she was talking about
this<br>
>> topic just this morning, and
can probably give more insight.<br>
>><br>
>> Just an FYI: Marketplace/FxA
localization in Arabic starts after
gaia-l10n<br>
>> has been completed by Arabic
community (that's the case for languages
in<br>
>> general). String freeze for
gaia-l10n is at FC (so beginning of
April for<br>
>> 2.2), so Marketplace/FxA Arabic
l10n work likely won't start right away.<br>
>><br>
>> The creation of RTL testcases
is nevertheless independent of this l10n<br>
>> work: we don't need to wait for
these components to be fully translated
to<br>
>> create TCs and test RTL
behavior. It therefore makes sense for<br>
>> Marketplace/FxA to be covered
by test cases.<br>
>><br>
>> These test cases should
continue to follow the RTL UX specs (the
November<br>
>> version can be found here,
that's the one to refer to for 2.2 work:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://mozilla.app.box.com/s/bcm3s5i2v6js5uk0ws3tsywse8bgncgo"
target="_blank">https://mozilla.app.box.com/s/bcm3s5i2v6js5uk0ws3tsywse8bgncgo</a>).<br>
>><br>
>> We will need guidance on what
areas you need to be covered by these
test<br>
>> cases, for Marketplace and FxA<br>
>><br>
>> thanks<br>
>> delphine<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 02/04/2015 05:31 PM, Josh
Cheng wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Delphine,<br>
>><br>
>> I like to discuss about the
current TC coverage of FxA and Market
Place.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks!<br>
>>
-------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> Josh Cheng<br>
>> Engineering Project Manager,
Firefox OS<br>
>> Mozilla Corporation<br>
>> ✉ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jocheng@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">jocheng@mozilla.com</a><br>
>>
-------------------------------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> Caitlin Galimidi <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cgalimidi@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">cgalimidi@mozilla.com</a>>
於 2015年2月5日 上午3:34 寫道：<br>
>><br>
>> + Edwin (program manager FFx
Accounts)<br>
>><br>
>> -<br>
>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>> Caitlin Galimidi<br>
>> Program Manager, FxOS Planning,
Marketplace & Apps<br>
>> IRC: c8o Skype:
caitlingalimidi<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:415.662.3228"
value="+14156623228" target="_blank">415.662.3228</a><br>
>> This is not cute<br>
>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:13
AM, Caitlin Galimidi <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cgalimidi@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">cgalimidi@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hey there Josh -<br>
>>><br>
>>> Do you have Firefox
Accounts and Marketplace test cases
included in the<br>
>>> work to launch RTL in 2.2?<br>
>>> How do we go about making
this happen?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Let us know how we can help
or if we should discuss.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>><br>
>>> -<br>
>>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>>> Caitlin Galimidi<br>
>>> Program Manager, FxOS
Planning, Marketplace & Apps<br>
>>> IRC: c8o Skype:
caitlingalimidi<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:415.662.3228"
value="+14156623228" target="_blank">415.662.3228</a><br>
>>> This is not cute<br>
>>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>>><br>
>>> ---------- Forwarded
message ----------<br>
>>> From: Wil Clouser <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wclouser@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">wclouser@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at
9:57 PM<br>
>>> Subject: Re: FxOS 2.2 and
RTL<br>
>>> To: Samuel Penrose <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:spenrose@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">spenrose@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> Cc: Christopher Karlof <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ckarlof@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">ckarlof@mozilla.com</a>>,
Andrew McKay<br>
>>> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:amckay@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">amckay@mozilla.com</a>>,
Jared Hirsch <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:6a68@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">6a68@mozilla.com</a>>,
dev-fxacct-owner<br>
>>> dev-fxacct-owner <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dev-fxacct@mozilla.org"
target="_blank">dev-fxacct@mozilla.org</a>>,
Caitlin Galimidi<br>
>>> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cgalimidi@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">cgalimidi@mozilla.com</a>>,
Peiying Mo <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pmo@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">pmo@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Howdy,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for the mail. RTL
is a committed feature for 2.2 at this<br>
>>> point. You can find RTL
bugs for FxOS at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/RTL"
target="_blank">https://wiki.mozilla.org/RTL</a><br>
>>> and some discussion at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:B2G/RTL"
target="_blank">https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:B2G/RTL</a>
.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1) Andy should answer that
one.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2) Josh Cheng is driving
the RTL testing for FxOS. Sounds like
we<br>
>>> should connect with him to
get this added to the test cases.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 3) The current expectation
is that the P1 RTL bugs will be done by
Feb<br>
>>> 20th, but there will be
some P2 stragglers. Schedule and status
of<br>
>>> FxOS is at<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/PM/Firefox+OS+Engineering+Status+Report"
target="_blank">https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/PM/Firefox+OS+Engineering+Status+Report</a><br>
>>> .<br>
>>><br>
>>> 4) I'm CCing Peiying who is
handling getting projects localized into<br>
>>> Arabic. I think she
mentioned earlier they are focused on
gaia right<br>
>>> now and then will hit the
Marketplace (and presumably, FxA). It<br>
>>> sounds like Arabic is an
active community so we should be good
there.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Wil<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:49
PM, Samuel Penrose <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:spenrose@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">spenrose@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > I have no reason to
believe native FxA was tested with RTL
languages.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at
6:13 PM, Christopher Karlof<br>
>>> > <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ckarlof@mozilla.com"
target="_blank">ckarlof@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I hear there will
be a FxOS 2.2 launch for some Arabic
speaking<br>
>>> >> countries.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Questions I have:<br>
>>> >> 1) Andy, Wil: Will
Marketplace on FxOS 2.2 use the Web
integration<br>
>>> >> flow it<br>
>>> >> uses on e.g., FxOS
1.1, or will it use the native FxA API?<br>
>>> >> 2) Jared, Sam: Was
the FxA native implementation ever
tested with RTL<br>
>>> >> languages?<br>
>>> >> 3) Anyone: Where
can I find the timeline for this?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Fun Fact: The FxA
Web implementation went through the
effort already<br>
>>> >> to<br>
>>> >> support RTL
languages. However, it currently has no
translated Arabic<br>
>>> >> strings (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://localize.mozilla.org/projects/accounts/"
target="_blank">https://localize.mozilla.org/projects/accounts/</a>),
so there’s<br>
>>> >> that.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> -chris<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>> --<br>
>><br>
>> delphine<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>> delphine<br>
><br>
><br>
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