<div dir="ltr">MP and FxA QA, Peiying met - (probably too early for Josh) but that <br><br>MP(Krupa) and FxA (Stuart) would hand off test cases to Peiying and Delphine for community or contractor testing. This should satisfy testing for the RTL feature as well as l10n testing.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Edwin Wong <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:edwong@mozilla.com" target="_blank">edwong@mozilla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>+cc: stuart (fxa qa manager) and karl<br><br></div>I'll schedule a meeting with all the QA folk, Wil, Josh, Peiying, to sort out the testing. Let me know if you want to be added to that meeting.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>-edwin<br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Krupa Raj <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kraj@mozilla.com" target="_blank">kraj@mozilla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>For Marketplace, we usually do some spot-checking across major locales but detailed Localization Testing is considered out-of-scope.<br><br></div>Peiying,<br><br></div>Is this something the South African contracting company can help test?<br><br></div>I will talk to Karl who works on Services QA and see what is being tested on the FxA side of things. <br><br></div>However, if we cannot utilize the contracting company, I will work on getting Marketplace covered for RTL testing. Testing FxA however, is out of my purview.<br><br></div>thanks,<br></div>Krupa<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Wil Clouser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wclouser@mozilla.com" target="_blank">wclouser@mozilla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Delphine - thanks for the links and information. The Marketplace<br>
designers have already been working with those documents and have<br>
draft RTL layouts in (soon-to-be public) RFC right now.<br>
<br>
I'm CCing the Marketplace test lead, Krupa, who, as the only tester,<br>
also has very limited resources. :) Krupa - can you read this thread<br>
and give us your feedback about Marketplace testing? We're also<br>
talking about FxA as it's very related and I understand you own the<br>
integration but not the actual FxA product itself. What are your<br>
thoughts?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Wil<br>
<br>
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Josh Cheng <<a href="mailto:jocheng@mozilla.com" target="_blank">jocheng@mozilla.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Caitlin,<br>
><br>
> I agree with Delphine. Regarding now Marigold are fully occupied and we are<br>
> still trying to mitigate the TC quality concern, I would suggest<br>
> Marketplace/FxA QA take this task.<br>
><br>
> Thank you!<br>
> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
> Josh Cheng<br>
> Engineering Project Manager, Firefox OS<br>
> Mozilla Corporation<br>
> ✉ <a href="mailto:jocheng@mozilla.com" target="_blank">jocheng@mozilla.com</a><br>
> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
> Christopher Karlof <<a href="mailto:ckarlof@mozilla.com" target="_blank">ckarlof@mozilla.com</a>> 於 2015年2月5日 上午10:14 寫道:<br>
><br>
> +dev-fxacct<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Delphine Lebédel <<a href="mailto:delphine@mozilla.com" target="_blank">delphine@mozilla.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Just one question: who usually does the Marketplace/FxA test cases?<br>
>><br>
>> Given the very limited resources Marigold testers have (outsource in<br>
>> China) for creating RTL test cases, it might be a better idea that the QA<br>
>> owner for Marketplace/FxA takes this task on? It's just a matter of studying<br>
>> the UX specs and covering these components like they usually are, adapting<br>
>> the TCs to the specs<br>
>><br>
>> @Josh: do you think that Marigold has enough bandwidth to cover both<br>
>> feature apps that they are already doing *as well as* Marketplace/FxA? I'm<br>
>> not so sure about this, and wouldn't want to overload them<br>
>><br>
>> thanks<br>
>> delphine<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 02/04/2015 06:04 PM, Delphine Lebédel wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Josh et al,<br>
>><br>
>> thanks for reaching out about this.<br>
>><br>
>> From what I understand, Marketplace isn't correctly RTLed yet (so probably<br>
>> Firefox Accounts isn't either?). This means the right-to-left feature<br>
>> behavior there still has to be analyzed and probably worked on, at this<br>
>> point. I've added Peiying to this discussion as she was talking about this<br>
>> topic just this morning, and can probably give more insight.<br>
>><br>
>> Just an FYI: Marketplace/FxA localization in Arabic starts after gaia-l10n<br>
>> has been completed by Arabic community (that's the case for languages in<br>
>> general). String freeze for gaia-l10n is at FC (so beginning of April for<br>
>> 2.2), so Marketplace/FxA Arabic l10n work likely won't start right away.<br>
>><br>
>> The creation of RTL testcases is nevertheless independent of this l10n<br>
>> work: we don't need to wait for these components to be fully translated to<br>
>> create TCs and test RTL behavior. It therefore makes sense for<br>
>> Marketplace/FxA to be covered by test cases.<br>
>><br>
>> These test cases should continue to follow the RTL UX specs (the November<br>
>> version can be found here, that's the one to refer to for 2.2 work:<br>
>> <a href="https://mozilla.app.box.com/s/bcm3s5i2v6js5uk0ws3tsywse8bgncgo" target="_blank">https://mozilla.app.box.com/s/bcm3s5i2v6js5uk0ws3tsywse8bgncgo</a>).<br>
>><br>
>> We will need guidance on what areas you need to be covered by these test<br>
>> cases, for Marketplace and FxA<br>
>><br>
>> thanks<br>
>> delphine<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 02/04/2015 05:31 PM, Josh Cheng wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Delphine,<br>
>><br>
>> I like to discuss about the current TC coverage of FxA and Market Place.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks!<br>
>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> Josh Cheng<br>
>> Engineering Project Manager, Firefox OS<br>
>> Mozilla Corporation<br>
>> ✉ <a href="mailto:jocheng@mozilla.com" target="_blank">jocheng@mozilla.com</a><br>
>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> Caitlin Galimidi <<a href="mailto:cgalimidi@mozilla.com" target="_blank">cgalimidi@mozilla.com</a>> 於 2015年2月5日 上午3:34 寫道:<br>
>><br>
>> + Edwin (program manager FFx Accounts)<br>
>><br>
>> -<br>
>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>> Caitlin Galimidi<br>
>> Program Manager, FxOS Planning, Marketplace & Apps<br>
>> IRC: c8o Skype: caitlingalimidi<br>
>> <a href="tel:415.662.3228" value="+14156623228" target="_blank">415.662.3228</a><br>
>> This is not cute<br>
>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Caitlin Galimidi <<a href="mailto:cgalimidi@mozilla.com" target="_blank">cgalimidi@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hey there Josh -<br>
>>><br>
>>> Do you have Firefox Accounts and Marketplace test cases included in the<br>
>>> work to launch RTL in 2.2?<br>
>>> How do we go about making this happen?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Let us know how we can help or if we should discuss.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>><br>
>>> -<br>
>>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>>> Caitlin Galimidi<br>
>>> Program Manager, FxOS Planning, Marketplace & Apps<br>
>>> IRC: c8o Skype: caitlingalimidi<br>
>>> <a href="tel:415.662.3228" value="+14156623228" target="_blank">415.662.3228</a><br>
>>> This is not cute<br>
>>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~<br>
>>><br>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
>>> From: Wil Clouser <<a href="mailto:wclouser@mozilla.com" target="_blank">wclouser@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:57 PM<br>
>>> Subject: Re: FxOS 2.2 and RTL<br>
>>> To: Samuel Penrose <<a href="mailto:spenrose@mozilla.com" target="_blank">spenrose@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> Cc: Christopher Karlof <<a href="mailto:ckarlof@mozilla.com" target="_blank">ckarlof@mozilla.com</a>>, Andrew McKay<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:amckay@mozilla.com" target="_blank">amckay@mozilla.com</a>>, Jared Hirsch <<a href="mailto:6a68@mozilla.com" target="_blank">6a68@mozilla.com</a>>, dev-fxacct-owner<br>
>>> dev-fxacct-owner <<a href="mailto:dev-fxacct@mozilla.org" target="_blank">dev-fxacct@mozilla.org</a>>, Caitlin Galimidi<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:cgalimidi@mozilla.com" target="_blank">cgalimidi@mozilla.com</a>>, Peiying Mo <<a href="mailto:pmo@mozilla.com" target="_blank">pmo@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Howdy,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for the mail. RTL is a committed feature for 2.2 at this<br>
>>> point. You can find RTL bugs for FxOS at <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/RTL" target="_blank">https://wiki.mozilla.org/RTL</a><br>
>>> and some discussion at <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:B2G/RTL" target="_blank">https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:B2G/RTL</a> .<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1) Andy should answer that one.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2) Josh Cheng is driving the RTL testing for FxOS. Sounds like we<br>
>>> should connect with him to get this added to the test cases.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 3) The current expectation is that the P1 RTL bugs will be done by Feb<br>
>>> 20th, but there will be some P2 stragglers. Schedule and status of<br>
>>> FxOS is at<br>
>>> <a href="https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/PM/Firefox+OS+Engineering+Status+Report" target="_blank">https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/PM/Firefox+OS+Engineering+Status+Report</a><br>
>>> .<br>
>>><br>
>>> 4) I'm CCing Peiying who is handling getting projects localized into<br>
>>> Arabic. I think she mentioned earlier they are focused on gaia right<br>
>>> now and then will hit the Marketplace (and presumably, FxA). It<br>
>>> sounds like Arabic is an active community so we should be good there.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Wil<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Samuel Penrose <<a href="mailto:spenrose@mozilla.com" target="_blank">spenrose@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > I have no reason to believe native FxA was tested with RTL languages.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Christopher Karlof<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:ckarlof@mozilla.com" target="_blank">ckarlof@mozilla.com</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I hear there will be a FxOS 2.2 launch for some Arabic speaking<br>
>>> >> countries.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Questions I have:<br>
>>> >> 1) Andy, Wil: Will Marketplace on FxOS 2.2 use the Web integration<br>
>>> >> flow it<br>
>>> >> uses on e.g., FxOS 1.1, or will it use the native FxA API?<br>
>>> >> 2) Jared, Sam: Was the FxA native implementation ever tested with RTL<br>
>>> >> languages?<br>
>>> >> 3) Anyone: Where can I find the timeline for this?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Fun Fact: The FxA Web implementation went through the effort already<br>
>>> >> to<br>
>>> >> support RTL languages. However, it currently has no translated Arabic<br>
>>> >> strings (<a href="https://localize.mozilla.org/projects/accounts/" target="_blank">https://localize.mozilla.org/projects/accounts/</a>), so there’s<br>
>>> >> that.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> -chris<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
<span><font color="#888888">>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>> delphine<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>> delphine<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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