Improving age verification

Karl Thiessen kthiessen at
Tue Aug 19 11:50:35 PDT 2014

I will emphatically refer Nick to bug 1031621 -- I disagree really, really strongly.  

By December, we are denying 11/12 of 13-year-olds access to the system with no legal reason to do so, which makes FxA entirely useless for, just to pick an example, any middle-schools teaching kids about how to create on the web.

If we decide not to fix this, I want the person who takes that decision to personally write a message to the filer of 1031621 and explain to him why his participation on the Web is not important to us.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Alexander" <nalexander at>
To: dev-fxacct at
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:34:10 AM
Subject: Re: Improving age verification

On 2014-08-19, 10:25 AM, Ryan Feeley wrote:
> Hi all,
> Currently our sign-up form makes users feel older (born 1990 or earlier?), and excludes some kids born in the magic year:
> Finally… here are three proposals to improve our age verification:
> Remember that The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 (COPPA) is a United States federal law that requires that we use a “neutral" age verification mechanism.
> I believe option #1 and #2 are neutral, but I’ll require legal input for #3.
> Which do you prefer: #1, #2, #3, #3a or leave it the same?

Entering YMD (#1) on mobile is out of the question.  Unbelievably 
terrible with keyboards, Swype, auto-complete, etc.

I could be convinced that #2 without the day field (what do we care? 
round!) is worth it.  But maybe we just go for a larger year range.

#3 is a lot of effort for a really small win.  In general, my political 
features are not unduly ruffled by denying folks in the cusp year access.

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