[CBT] Open Source + Open Culture + Open Data

Majken Connor majken at gmail.com
Wed Jun 5 10:46:15 PDT 2013

One of the frustrations I have had (and others I know) is that while we
have done a good job of quantifying our open development practices, we
haven't done a good job of quantifying what community building practices
have worked, and what make us who we are.

My two main concerns are:

1. If we don't know what we're doing right, how do we know when we've
stopped doing it? Mozilla has grown so much, ask anyone that's been around
(even not as long as I have been) and they will tell you we're not the
same. Some of that is definitely good, some of it is inevitably bad. If we
don't see the bad changes coming it is hard to intervene and preserve the
good culture before it is too late.

2. We can't win the internet alone. Success in Mozilla's mission IS passing
on our values so that if Mozilla disappeared tomorrow the culture of the
internet has our values deeply ingrained. To paraphrase a quote someone
passed on from Mitchell - we need to make ourselves redundant.

On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Janet Swisher <jswisher at mozilla.com> wrote:

>  Yes, I think what we do can be generalized, as other open source folks
> have done in work like The Open Source Way (
> https://www.theopensourceway.org) or The Art of Community (
> http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/). The tricky bit is figuring out
> where to draw the line between "this works for us" and "this always works
> this way".
> On 6/4/13 5:27 PM, Brian King wrote:
> Hi Builders,
> Passing this on in case any of you are interested in helping out or have
> ideas on how Mozilla can help in general.
> It raises an interesting issue. How much of what we do to build community
> is portable to other organisations / projects? Sure, we have tools such as
> Bugzilla but right now all of the other work we do is not so easily
> packaged. Can it even be presented in such a way to set other communities
> up for success or is there some magic that only works for Mozilla?
> - Brian
> On 3. 06. 13 16:16, Breandán Knowlton wrote:
> Hi there //
> Chris Mills (at Opera) and then Robert Nyman told me that I might want
> to get in touch with you guys. I work on a fairly big digital cultural
> heritage project called Europeana; we're trying to aggregate the catalog
> records of all the museums, archives and libraries in Europe and make
> digitised objects from these collections available through a single API.
> It depends on a lot of data and web standards work, and the goal is
> democratisation of access to culture. The project is ambitious, but
> we're starting to make some progress.
> I'd love to chat with you about building a community around this idea.
> While we're chugging away at our work, and anyone is welcome to download
> our metadata standards
> (http://pro.europeana.eu/web/guest/edm-documentation), code
> (http://europeanalabs.eu/browser) or data
> (http://pro.europeana.eu/datasets), what I'd like to do is transition
> the project into something that feels like more a part of the F/OSS
> community. We're doing this work mostly supported by public grants, and
> we're working for what we see as a public good, but we'd like to spread
> out the contributions to make it easier to fork and patch our code.
> We're working on projects relating to metadata extraction, to OCR, to
> geospatial and temporal enrichment, to entity extraction, to metadata
> mapping and to semanticaly-rich linked open data. All of these bits of
> our project might be of more general interest, and we think that we'd
> have useful things to offer the developer community. We understand that
> there's more to creating a true F/OSS community than just moving a
> repository to GitHub.
> I thought that we might try to do a joint project with Mozilla, since
> you guys are quite good at this, and share some of our goals. We might,
> for example, apply for a grant together to cover the time it would take
> to transition this project from simply having open source code into
> something that would be widely known and used and adopted. Or we might
> find better ways to fit what we're doing into the community structures
> created by Mozilla.
> Is this something that we might discuss? Crazy idea?
> Let me know if you'd be available for a chat to discuss further.
> Best regards,
> // Breandán
> --
> Breandán Knowlton
> Chief Product Officer
> Europeana Foundation
> europeana.eu <http://europeana.eu> <http://europeana.eu>
> Phone: +31 (0)70 31 40 971
> Mobile: +31 (0)63 168 0202
> Email: b at breandan.org <mailto:b at breandan.org> <b at breandan.org>
> Skype: brendan.knowlton
> Twitter: @bfk
> *Europeana makes our culture available for all to explore, learn from
> and re-use – learn how at**#AllezCulture <http://bit.ly/17mnbL7><http://bit.ly/17mnbL7>*
> --
>  Janet Swisher <jREMOVEswisher at mozilla.com>
> Mozilla Developer Network <https://developer.mozilla.org>
> Developer Engagement Community Organizer
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