Working on a Mozilla offices space (take 3!)

Lars Bergstrom larsberg at
Tue Mar 7 16:21:48 UTC 2017

In 2017? :-)

It's either $3k / year in expenses (chair, desk, internet, etc.) or
$350/month. And Rob explicitly said that if you're already set up from
prior years and not expensing ongoing things, you'd be eligible.

That said, I'd never expect anybody to ditch out on the comp'd internet for
an occasional meetup space! I just don't get any benefit from the stipend
because it's included in my building assessments, so I don't have any way
to easily expense it back to Mozilla.
- Lars

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Jon Petto <jpetto at> wrote:

> I’m in the same boat as Kumar and Ryan. I’d love to meet up once per
> week/on Fridays, but already used my remotie dollars for a desk and chair.
> On Mar 7, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Lars Bergstrom <larsberg at> wrote:
> FWIW, I also would probably only use the space once a week. I just don't
> use any of the remote / home work stipend anyway, so personally it's worth
> the paperwork to get a nicer spot for our Friday gatherings and to host
> workweeks.
> Also, from talking with Rob, in similar situations he's still been able to
> negotiate a "guest membership" for the folks who aren't actively paying so
> that you can still expense the occasional day pass or workweeks. Separate
> from the $350/month, he seems supportive of being able to host workweeks in
> other locations, particularly ones like Chicago that have a nice mix of
> travel accessibility and MUCH cheaper hotels & flights than SF/Paris/London.
> - Lars
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:20 AM, J. Ryan Stinnett <jryans at> wrote:
>> I think my situation is similar to Kumar's: I don't think I'd commute to
>> an office enough to make it worth it, but I'm happy to join the next Friday
>> meetup.
>> - Ryan
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Kumar McMillan <kmcmillan at>
>> wrote:
>>> Interesting. I thought about it for a minute. I don't know if I would
>>> realistically commute to an office more than once a week. Thus, retaining
>>> my home office expense is probably more optimal for me.
>>> Regardless, count me in for another Friday meetup sometime! I would
>>> prefer to do something more like co-working instead of a happy hour --
>>> co-working, as in a longer window of time that people can drop in and out
>>> of, do work, and say hi.
>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Lars Bergstrom <larsberg at>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I have been working with WPR and Sam and Ann Marie from MoFo to revive
>>>> the Chicago office space conversation.
>>>> The short version of the situation is: if you are a remote MoCo
>>>> employee and are NOT currently expensing your home setup (chair, desk,
>>>> internet, paper, etc.), then you have the option of "contributing" your
>>>> $350/month coworking space budget towards an improved Chicago office
>>>> location. Billing details tbd (but hopefully consolidated and not actually
>>>> N individual bills & expenses).
>>>> Please reply (privately to myself / Sam / Ann Marie or to this thread,
>>>> if you prefer) if you are interested in using your budget towards this and
>>>> would therefore like to be involved in the space selection.
>>>> The longer version is that WPR is still not "creating" new offices and
>>>> is sticking with their policy of asking remote employees to get their own
>>>> space. They (rightly) have observed that people from scattered teams
>>>> basically leave offices like Boston empty and just get together on Friday
>>>> for a griping / hacking session.
>>>> Since MoFo has a colocated Hive team and need for a dedicated space, I
>>>> was hoping that we could add on some MoCo budget to get some floating desk
>>>> space, day passes, a space to hold meetups, and conference rooms that we
>>>> could reserve for small to medium workweeks (say, < 12 people for a week).
>>>> If it's big enough, I'll even put an Oculus Rift or HTC Vive roomscale VR
>>>> setup in the space for people to use / demo when I'm not working on it.
>>>> Regardless, once the weather sorts out whatever in the world it's
>>>> doing, I'll start bugging people again for monthly Friday meetups at a
>>>> coffee shop or similar :-)
>>>> Thanks and hope you're all doing well!
>>>> - Lars
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